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Pin oak vs Red oak

Pin oak vs Red oak

Pin oak and Red oak are often considered for the same spot in the garden (shade, specimen). The data below shows where they differ: size, hardiness, care, toxicity and price.

Illustration of Pin oak

Pin oak

Quercus palustris 7 m × 4 m after 10 years

A fast-growing oak with a regular conical crown and glossy, deeply cut leaves that turn bright red in autumn. It tolerates wet and occasionally…

Large tree
Full sun
Part shade
from about €80
Illustration of Red oak

Red oak

Quercus rubra 7 m × 4 m after 10 years

A fast-growing oak with a large, spreading crown and big, pointed-lobed leaves that turn orange-red, red or reddish brown in autumn. It is a…

Large tree
Full sun
Part shade
from about €36

Key differences

  • Pin oak also takes heavy clay, Red oak needs a loose, free-draining soil.

Which one to choose?

Pin oak is the better choice if the soil is heavy clay.

Watch out for

Pin oak
Most garden soils in Central Europe are calcareous and alkaline, and pin oak cannot cope with that: it cannot take up iron, the leaves turn yellow between the veins and later brown (iron chlorosis), within a few years branches die back and the tree may even be lost. Iron chelate treatments help only temporarily, and calcareous soil under a tree this size cannot be acidified for good. Test the soil pH before planting and choose another tree if it is above 7. On acidic to neutral, moist soil it has few problems and is rarely hit by the usual oak diseases. The lower branches sweep downwards and need removing beside a path or driveway.
Red oak
On calcareous, alkaline soil it develops iron chlorosis (leaves yellow while the veins stay green) and declines, so it does not suit lime-rich gardens in Central Europe. It is a North American species that spreads by seed in Central European forests and smothers the ground flora with its slowly decaying leaf litter: Germany officially classifies it as invasive and it is on the Czech black list, so do not plant it next to woodland or semi-natural areas. The thick, slow-rotting leaf litter and the many acorns mean work in the garden too, and it does not like being under solid paving. Caterpillars (gypsy moth, for example) sometimes strip the leaves.

The data side by side

Feature
Pin oak
Red oak
Group Large tree Large tree
Size after 10 years 7 m × 4 m (uncertain) 7 m × 4 m (uncertain)
Ultimate size 15–25 m × 12–18 m 15–30 m × 15–25 m
Growth rate Fast Fast
Light Full sun, Part shade Full sun, Part shade
Soil Average garden soil, Clay, Sandy, Acidic Average garden soil, Sandy, Acidic
Hardiness down to -34 °C (USDA 4, RHS H7) down to -34 °C (USDA 4, RHS H7)
Heat tolerance High Medium (uncertain)
Foliage Deciduous Deciduous
Flowering April–May, yellow, green April–May, green, yellow
Water need Medium Medium
Drought tolerance Medium Medium
Maintenance Low Low
Planting distance 1000 cm 1200 cm
For dogs Toxic (uncertain) Toxic (uncertain)
For children Mildly toxic (uncertain) Mildly toxic (uncertain)
Typical price approx. €85 about €48 (100–150 cm)

Prices are rounded, indicative values. Toxicity data is for information only. If your pet or child has eaten a plant, contact a vet or a doctor. Data updated: October 17, 2026

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